Left On Read vs Left Unread, and Trolls/ Online Abuse On Instagram

It’s weekly catchup time! This week is all about a great debate I had waging in my IG stories which left people relatively torn: is it worse to be left on read, or left UNread?? I know which side I err on, so keep reading to find out what I think about it all from both sides. Trolls 2.0 – I thought the worst trolls thrived exclusively on YouTube as opposed to platforms like Instagram. I guess it’s easier to hate on someone there perhaps? But with the huge increase of girls I know throwing out these IGTV styling videos, I was super surprised to see troll comments breeding there too. Ew.

Is it worse to be left on read or left unread?

Dating in the digital age is tough for many reasons. One of them being the fact that most messaging apps allows you to see when the person you’ve messaged has read it, thus leading to a war raging in our minds of “are they ignoring me?” or “are they just busy?” – depending on how insecure you are. Just to define terms quickly, to be left “on read” means that someone has read the message, you get the blue double tick to prove it, and they just haven’t replied. To be left unread is when someone just doesn’t even bother to open your message at all. Grey tick galore. Sure, they can see the message in their notifications and probably read it there, but they just don’t open it. So what IS worse? I took to IG polls to quiz everyone on it because that always seems like the best method to get a data sample (although my audience is 81% female so these results are perhaps totally not representative…) and 58% said it’s worse to be left on read, and 42% said it’s worse to be left unread.

For clarity, let’s discuss this through a dating/ relationship lens because if my friends leave me on read/ unread, I have no qualms in quadruple texting them again and again until they see my message. I know they love me. I know our friendship will not be over by their lack of quick responses. I also know that I am that person that 95% of the time texts back immediately and not everyone is like me.

I totally see both perspectives. Opening your message and not replying, basically ever, makes it blatantly obvious they are simply not interested and dgaf. They just don’t want to reply. It’s become a pop-culture phenomenon and even Cardi B raps in I Do: “leave his texts on read, leave his balls on blue” – and Urban Dictionary describes it as the highest level of disrespect a person can receive. And people in my DM’s argued that if they don’t open your message and read it, they could just be looking for a conversation starter or simply be busy. So surely it’s worse to be left on read? That blue double tick of doom cutting through you like a knife?

It’s true being left on read is a bitch, but personally, I think it’s worse being left on unread for this very simple reason: if someone opens your message, at least they want to read it. For me, to say someone is just too “busy” to open and read your message or may be thinking of a conversation starter is just wishful thinking to make yourself feel better about the harsh truth that they just don’t care enough about what you’ve said to even read your message. And I say this from personal experience – I currently have 39 unopened messages in my Whatsapp inbox spanning the space of 18 months and just under half are from guys I’ve matched with on dating apps (and not met) and then just got bored/ disinterested and never opened their messages. Because I simply didn’t care enough to open them. I know I complained about disposable dating culture in my blog post the other week, and I’m fully aware that I am part of the problem. But like I said in my ghosting post, I’m working on it. Please forgive me.

Of course Whatsapp allows you to turn read receipts off, and take of your timestamp so it won’t show people when you were last online, and your friends and lovers can only see when you are online at that very moment. So you never really know if they’ve even opened your message or not. But you can still see them online, so you know they know your message is there. But you just never know if they’re choosing to ignore you because they want to, or because they don’t have time to reply, or maybe they forgot, or IDK?!?!?

Either way, whether you’re team on read or unread, the message is the same. It’s still shitty. You still feel like shit. And the truth is, they’re probably just not that into you. I’m busy. I’m a very busy person but I’m also on my phone a lot (and to be honest, so is everyone else) and I’m a firm believer that no matter how busy you are, you can always make time to send a message to say “sorry I’ve been busy today I’ll reply properly tomorrow!” – and looking at my past, I’ve only ever used the “Soz, busy” excuse for people that I’m just not that into. If someone is really interested, they’re going to want to keep YOU interested. Whether it’s read or unread, in my eyes, if it takes 24 hours or more for someone to get back to you, and it happens regularly, they’re not that into you. I know some people can be shit texters – I get that, but if you need more than that from someone then that’s cool. You just need to know your boundaries.

What do you think? I know most people disagree with me as I’m in the 42% here, but I’d still love to know your thoughts!

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Trolls 2.0 and Online Abuse

It’s a well known fact of life that the worst trolls online reside in the comments on YouTube videos. From the downright nasty (I remember being told that I’m “definitely not a size 8” because my legs were twice the size of someone’s friend who was a size 10 – lol) to the piss-taking negs (people who make pointlessly mean jokes) and to the weird backward compliments that are actually just unnecessary comments (e.g. when people say, I really love you BUT *insert unnecessary commentary on something negative*) people just seem to have less of a filter on this platform compared to any other. My theory is it’s easier to get annoyed or dislike someone in video format than it is in a photograph. It’s easier to hate on a video because you feel you see more of that person than a simple still image.

What I wasn’t expecting was to see a rise on troll comments on Instagram. With IGTV finally starting to take off more, I’m watching my friends online getting hit by these needlessly nasty or pathetic comments on their styling videos. But whereas nasty comments and dm’s come in at a lot smaller scale for most people than they would on YouTube, it seems that these videos have just enticed the trolls onto another platform. It’s weird and disheartening. I’ve been on the receiving end of comments before and I’ve got way better at brushing them off, laughing at them, and not taking it personally but it is still hard. We’re expected to “kill them with kindness” or not reply in order to not “feed” the trolls because “IT IS WHAT THEY WANT!!” But quite frankly, seeing people on IG kill their trolls with kind comments like “thanks so much lovely for your time commenting. I hope you have a wonderful day!” actually makes me cringe. I’d rather ignore a troll than respond with something so saccharine. I actually admire those who stand up for themselves and clap back way more than respond false kindness and positivity. Who cares if the troll wants a reaction? You have every right to react.

We’re told to develop a thick skin and to expect online abuse and negativity because we are “putting ourselves out there”. The comparison I’m about to give may seem like a little bit of a reach to some, but hear me out: it feels like this is the same victim-blaming response that women have received for years when it comes to things like sexual assault and cat-calling. For years, those who experienced it have been told and taught how to deal with it and avoid it. “Oh well you were wearing a short skirt so what do you expect?” “You were drunk, so you should have expected something like that may happen” – and when people use the excuse of “well I guess you’re putting yourself out there online so I guess you should just expect it?” – it just really echoes all of those excuses people have made in the past and once again puts all of the blame and onus on the victim, and the responsibility in their hands to “deal with it” rather than tackling the route of the problem: the trolls and the perpetrators of abuse. Who is in the wrong here? Why are the creators the ones who have to change themselves, when in reality, these comments really deeply affect people? It seems once more nobody is tackling the root of the problem here.

I understand that online abuse and trolling is something more of a modern phenomenon and would be way harder to prosecute than physical acts like sexual/ physical abuse. But attitudes do change over the year, and I just hope that the increase in online hate, abuse, and trolls, and the attitudes towards it all will change for the better too.

Anyway, that post got really deep. Here’s some fluffy pretty things that I’ve been loving this week.

 

 

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  1. To be left on read, even tho as equally as shitty, is preferable in the sense that at least even if they’re not that into you, they’ve taken a small piece of their time to acknowledge your message. The grey tick to me is just unbearable & rude. Except as you say, to friends; I know I’ll pop back into those conversations.

    Also you point re trolls; it’s so important to highlight the issue of victim blaming, not only online but IRL also. I’ll be honest, I see some things online that aren’t my cup of tea but hell no do I have the time to tell them that! I really truly believe that until society accepts that there are differences in individuals, & the patriarchy improves, this is not likely to stop. But girl, keep spreading the messaging loud & clear we can all do our part in making life incrementally better for one another.

    Keep being a babe xoxo

  2. I so agree re trolling. Remember the old adage ‘if you haven’t anything nice or constructive to say then don’t say anything’. People who get a buzz out of bringing others down publicly or think things done digitally/ anonmynously don’t hurt need to think again. I think the only way it will change is it to stop being accepted by society , just like other forms of harassement Mind you I expect people who take the time to read your blog posts are not the trolls – so apologies preaching to the converted here

  3. I personally try not to overthink about what it means if someone reads or not my texts, because I know that 90% of the time it’s just my anxiety and insecurities in play and they end up having nothing to do to what is really happening in the background. It happens to m with my boyfriend all the time: sometimes I look at texts on the bus and answer when I get home, but that’s because I’m afraid I’ll get my phone snatched by a pickpocket while I answer; or he looks at my messages in between his gym breaks, but well, I guess that can be because we already know each other?

    I have never thought of YT as the platform that nowadays have the most trolls, but you definitely make a point when you say it’s easier to troll someone through a video than a photograph. After all, it’s way harder to look “perfect” all the time and in every angle when you’re recording yourself.

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  4. In my opinion if they leave you on read it’s really hurting. It shows that they don’t care enough to reply or are mad, don’t know what to say, don’t want to talk to you.

    If they don’t even open your message, then it shows they don’t even care what you have to say. I’m not talking if they haven’t opened it for 12 hours, I mean that’s also rude but I’m talking like if they don’t open it at all. It’s like guys you put in your spambox when they message you. They can keep messaging but I’ll most likely never reply to them as I’m not interested.

    Bottomline both are as hurting behaviors. It’s up to you how you perceive it and what hurts you the most.

  5. Guy here, I see this post is more related to “the girls”, but I have recently been dealing with it from one girl who will text me out of the blue to tell me she wants to hang out and when I agree to meet up she always flakes and will days later say sorry , if she even is… It’s just annoying and a tad bit pathetic, I think for anyone to just leave your message unreplied unless you are really pressing that person.
    Just recently another girl was chatting me through the comments and we seemed to have some sparks and kept eachother engaged so I felt I should write a quick message and it’s now been 24 hrs left unread.. the suspense is killing me is she really that busy that she just hasn’t had time to pm me back or is my negativity winning out, when my subconscious is telling me she just isn’t interested? Women you won’t hurt my &$*%in feelings if you tell me the forbidden truth!! Makes me sick how dating in the digital age has become another form of cyber bullying to make people feel inferior and like they don’t have any grip on their own life. No instead sick people want to string us good hearted ones along because we don’t quite fit the mold of their ideal partner. I say it is no better than racism bigotry or any other form of hate. I don’t mean to sound like I am playing a victim, but I just can’t stand the hypocrisy of it all!!!
    How can you women say things like, “I want a man who doesn’t hide his feelings” or “why do I always go for the bad guys?” The first is such a cop out, as soon as he comes along, y’all are just as quick to find something wrong with him. Same for the second comment. The reason you like shitty men, or should I say boys for this, is because you like to be treated like shit. It is the most toxic thing in American society that needs to be eradicated from dating. Until then, I won’t gaf about society and it’s bullshit, unwritten rules.

  6. Guy here, I see this post is more related to “the girls”, but I have recently been dealing with it from one girl who will text me out of the blue to tell me she wants to hang out and when I agree to meet up she always flakes and will days later say sorry , if she even is… It’s just annoying and a tad bit pathetic, I think for anyone to just leave your message unreplied unless you are really pressing that person. Of course if you’re friends this doesn’t apply and they will forgive you or not even care depending on how well of friends.
    Just recently another girl was chatting me through the comments and we seemed to have some sparks and kept eachother engaged so I felt I should write a quick message and it’s now been 24 hrs left unread.. the suspense is killing me is she really that busy that she just hasn’t had time to pm me back or is my negativity winning out, when my subconscious is telling me she just isn’t interested? Women you won’t hurt my &$*%in feelings if you tell me the forbidden truth!! Makes me sick how dating in the digital age has become another form of cyber bullying to make people feel inferior and like they don’t have any grip on their own life. No instead sick people want to string us good hearted ones along because we don’t quite fit the mold of their ideal partner. I say it is no better than racism bigotry or any other form of hate. I don’t mean to sound like I am playing a victim, but I just can’t stand the hypocrisy of it all!!!
    How can you women say things like, “I want a man who doesn’t hide his feelings” or “why do I always go for the bad guys?” The first is such a cop out, as soon as he comes along, y’all are just as quick to find something wrong with him. Same for the second comment. The reason you like shitty men, or should I say boys for this, is because you like to be treated like shit. It is the most toxic thing in American society that needs to be eradicated from dating. Until then, I won’t gaf about society and it’s bullshit, unwritten rules.

  7. Sometimes keeping messages on read is because the other person is trying to keep you interested and miss them . It is a way to keep you hanging on . You are giving a person an ego boost when you send messages and it is kept on read You are the fuel to the fire. So stop sending messages and do something that you really enjoy doing . Best of luck